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Could You Buy Real Estate with Someone?

As the price of real estate has skyrocketed over the past few years, the possibility of owning a home is getting pretty slim for many people. Here in Vancouver, even though prices have dropped, a one-bedroom condo is around 300K. You need to make a fair salary to be able to afford that or you’d have to save a fairly large down payment. Forget about detached houses – with the average price of a house soaring, it would take a small financial miracle to be able to afford one.

So why not buy with someone else, as the article I link to suggests? With more than one income, you’ll be able to afford that palace you’ve always wanted. I’m not just talking about buying with a loved one, I’m talking about buying with a friend or family member. Doesn’t it make sense to buy with someone you really like and get along with or are related to?

In theory it sounds great, but issues of money can test even the strongest bonds. It’s important to have a well thought out arrangement beforehand to help avoid any issues in the future.

LEGAL

How do you split up the expenses? What if one party brings more ‘money to the table’ than the other party? What if one person wants out and the other one wants to stay? These are some of the issues you’re going to have to consider if buying with a friend. A trip to the lawyer would be wisely recommended.  I can’t imagine only agreeing to terms orally and then a few years down the road, problems come up. If you don’t have a document to fall back onto, I could see big trouble.

Here are some items to consider:

  • Major repairs and maintenance – how to split this up.
  • The percentage of ownership – based on how much money each party puts in.
  • Exit strategy – the other party should get ‘first refusal’ as the article points out. If one wants out, the other can purchase and remortgage on their own.

DAY TO DAY LIVING

You’d also better make sure you divide up the daily duties of running the household. What happens if you get one person who is a clean freak and the other who really isn’t that clean at all?  You need to have a list in place of what gets cleaned and when.

What if the other starts dating someone and this new person is around the house all the time? Would you be prepared to have a third roommate? You’d have to specify in your ownership contract what happens – would they have to start paying part of the expenses? Would they also have any right to a share of the house? I could see it getting messy, if the relationship becomes common law.

A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE

Friends of mine actually did this and so far so good. A few things have come up:

Utility bills – one has had to carry a few bills while the other gets the money together. Ultimately, everything does get paid though.

Decor – one likes traditional, the other likes more modern and the house is a heritage type house. They don’t always agree on what’s best for the house.

Relationship – a third person is around now – quite a bit … but it seems to be working so far. Should they pay a portion of expenses? That one is still up in the air.

Major Repairs – which ones to do first? There is some disagreement over what is best for the house - cosmetic or maintenance?

At the end of the day, I would consider buying property with someone besides a loved one, but NOT without some kind of extensive agreement is writing.

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How to be a Slum Lord

I was recently reading this article about a local slumlord and it brought back memories of a trip I took back in 1997 when I worked for an investment real estate company. My job was to inspect a property, decide what needed to be done to bring it up to speed and then sell it off to investors.  When I arrived, I was in for a bit of a surprise.

The place was a dump. I couldn't believe people really lived there. There was mud and dirt everywhere and the exterior was hideous. Inside wasn't much better – old appliances, dirty carpet and an odd smell pervaded the apartment units. I realized that this place was a bit of a slum. My heart sank.

What surprised me was I crunched the numbers beforehand and the property was earning a fairly healthy cash flow. This was one of the reasons we were looking at the place. So, naturally, before I had seen the building, I made certain assumptions about the way it looked – if it was earning money, it had to look fairly decent, right?  Well, after viewing the units, I realized then, that there was money to be made by having people live in less-than ideal conditions. I wouldn't call it squalor but I wouldn't live there.

After touring the individual apartments and the grounds, it was readily apparent that many repairs were needed, from new appliances, carpet and fresh paint, to possibly new siding and roofing – even the plumbing was a bit suspect. I decided that I would recommend repairs that would make the place inhabitable according to my standards … sounds reasonable?

Well, unfortunately, the projected rental cash flow to our perspective investors didn't quite match up with what I thought had to be done, so things were scaled back quite a bit. I have to admit, I left the company shortly before the project was completed and I never got to see how it turned out. I think the investors who bought made some good money – actually, I should have bought a unit, but for some reason, it didn't feel right. They were quite cheap and the rents were fairly healthy, thus theoretically earning a healthy cash flow each month. I think the tenants were fairly steady as there wasn't much choice in the lower end of the market even back then.

So here I am twelve years later and I still think about those units. Now, every time I drive by a run-down house or some crappy looking rental housing, I wonder – who owns them?

Well, I can tell you it's probably a smart investor or group of investors who are using an investment strategy – maximizing cash flow by minimizing expenses. They are also targeting a market that admittedly needs to be addressed – low income earners. Not everyone can afford to live in waterfront homes with a gorgeous view – that just isn't the way the world works. I'm not saying that everyone should live in luxury surroundings with marble countertops, but one would hope the basics would be provided.

Would I invest in a slum?

I don't think so. I'm not sure I'd feel good knowing that I was making money off people who were trapped and couldn't afford anything else. If I did invest in low-income housing, I would want to make sure that at least I would live there … that means no bugs, crime or anything like that.

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Purchasing a Condo - 5 Issues to Consider

I rent right now but there was a time when I owned a condo and it was actually an eye-opening experience. With prices falling in the past few months and spring being one of the busiest times to buy real estate, the market has been picking up. I'm not ready to buy yet but I'm sure many people are - when I do buy again, I'll be armed with my last experience in the back of my mind.

Here are a few things to consider when buying a condo besides the usual tips of location and getting a home inspector:

PRESALES

My first condo was a presale. It was fun watching it being built over the space of a year and then moving in on that first day. I'll never forget doing my first load of laundry!. But there were a few problems – some of the finishing was subpar and the exterior (especially on the roof) had a few unfinished items. To top it off, the city went on strike and when I moved in, it had not passed inspection yet – far too many unknowns as far as I am concerned. Lately, with falling prices, some people can't afford to even close on their units. A developer could also go bankrupt which would be very inconvenient.

SIMILAR OWNERS

My condo was at the lower end of the scale so we had a diverse set of owners which actually made for a nice community. But after a while, a few owners couldn't afford their units and had to rent them out which caused tensions with those of us who still lived there. While it was there right to do so, I didn't want to live in a rental building.

We also had arguments on the strata council as different people wanted different things – we had seniors, young families and couples and single people like me. The problem is when you live in such close quarters conflict can start fairly easily. If everyone has a similar background (let's say all seniors) arguments and disputes may be kept to a minimum.

COMMERCIAL UNITS

Having a commercial unit in your complex can actually increase your home insurance, I quickly found out. A friend of mine also lived in a building with a restaurant in it and the fire alarm went off at least once per month requiring everyone to wait outside on the street. Like it or not, they will increase traffic around the building which could be a security issue. Similar to my first point, commercial owners may have different agendas which can cause conflict (it did in my case)

WOOD FRAME BUILDINGS

No matter what they tell you, wood frame just isn't as sound proof as concrete. I uses to hear the people snore below me or bathe their dog in the bathtub. There's also the issue of maintenance – for the most part, concrete buildings tend to be lower maintenance. There's a massive problem with mould and rot in Vancouver as I can relate to, being a victim of shoddy construction and faulty building codes. All these issues would mean I'd focus on concrete buildings but they can be fraught with problems, too.

MINDSET

Most people have rented apartments before buying. I'm surprised how many new owners still think like renters after making their purchase – they don't want to spend money on maintenance or they expect other people to do all the work. Even though you subcontract out to trades, there is still much work to be done which means you need strong, proactive people on the strata council. I'm also shocked how many owners ignore bylaws or worse, don't treat the common areas with the proper care. I guess they think someone else will clean up the mess.

Home ownership is a huge step especially if you've never owned before.  Whether you're a first-time homebuyer or a seasoned investor, the real estate market can be fraught with perils and doing your homework is more than half the battle.

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